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([personal profile] jain Aug. 19th, 2003 07:51 am)
I just finished reading The Charioteer, which, despite the name, is not set in the Classical world as with most of her novels, but in World War II England. I loved it, and I understood maybe three-fourths of it--and one part in particular is weighing on my mind. Can anyone who's read the book tell me what that whole discussion between Dave and Laurie was about at the end? He was going to start a relationship with Andrew, right? But then why did he change his mind?
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From: [identity profile] gaudior.livejournal.com


Yes! I am damn fond of this book, and you may be the only other person I know who's read it (except possibly Lila, because she's read everything), so we should talk of it at length.

Okay, what I get from the conversation, which confuses me too, is: Dave was in love with Andrew's father, but it never came to anything, and he feels that acting on homosexual love is wrong. He had realized that Andrew and Laurie were falling in love, but had thought that neither of them realized it-- that they would think of it as just a friendship, without becoming sexual. Andrew has realized that he, Andrew, is in love with Laurie, and is hoping Laurie isn't gay, so Andrew can take himself off knowing that their friendship was "unsullied," at least on Laurie's side. Since Laurie is gay, and tells Dave that he is, Dave thinks it would be a very bad idea for them to meet again. Dave thinks that feelings are one thing, but acting on them would mess up Andrew's life. It seems like Dave's idea is that the only decent way for gay people to live their lives is as celibates or straight, and he's going to try to stop Laurie if Laurie tries to let there be anything more between him and Andrew. Laurie, I think, allows himself to be persuaded, as he has for most of the book, that Andrew's innocence should be untroubled.

I think.

This book is so... they struggle so hard to be decent, to live a clean, pure life, and it seems so hard for them to know what decency is. They know that love is good, they can't help knowing that, but they have nothing to support that except their own feelings and an old greek text... wah.

Would say lots more, but must run.

--R

From: [identity profile] sherrold-ish.livejournal.com

I adore this book, too


and I've reread it more than once, but honest to god, I've never known exactly what point Dave is trying to make, either, other than, not actually knowing you're bisexual might be less painful than knowing -- especially if that knowledge comes attached to a beautiful young war hero...

But heck if I know.

Sandy
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